Now I will admit that I have no love for Clare. I don’t think she’s been honest, I think she’s a narcissist, and frankly, I think she’s lied too much.
This past week we’ve gotten to know more about Clare and the reasons that she left. Well, the reasons that she said – you know finding love and all. It was also the first time that I was like DAMN this shit is dramatic.
So much happened on this past weeks episode and we’re discussing it all. Let’s break down Clare’s end (well proposal, but personally, I am like BYE).
Honest thoughts of Clare. Do you think that she deserved to be The Bachelorette? Do you feel like her and Dale went into this season already having made a connection prior (communicating through social media, etc)? Do you believe that they made their connection on the show?
Erin: I don’t think that Clare deserved to The Bachelorette, and I think that ABC picked her for the shock factor of having the oldest Bachelorette. I don’t think that her and Dale didn’t connect prior to the show and you won’t be able to convince me otherwise. But I firmly believe that Dale is in this for the money and so is Clare. I am not betting on either one of them lasting. I just don’t trust Clare and I don’t think that there wasn’t something with her and Dale prior.
Lizzie: I don’t think they pick The Bachelorette based on who deserves it, but who they think will make for better TV, so in that regard, despite the mess, Clare was a good choice. We’re all talking about her and everyone was watching to see if she would actually do what rumors said she’d do, so I guess that’s a win for ABC? As for her and Dale, I think whatever the answer is …it’s been 2.5 seconds. Even if they connected before on social media, the first time they saw each other was on the show, and …no one falls in love in these 2.5 seconds they’ve had together. Can they make it work despite that? Maybe, if they put in the work and if they find that they are truly compatible, but am I betting on them? No.
Lyra: I think that Clare and Dale absolutely contacted each other before the show. That’s the only explanation that I could come up with for how fast she “fell” for him. Like girl, get it together and stop lying to the world. You knew Dale and it just paints you in a completely different light. Also, I’ve had food in my fridge longer than Clare and Dale’s entire relationship. Hard pass on this “romantic” storyline.
Grace: While I wasn’t a fan of Clare this season, I don’t think she was necessarily undeserving of being The Bachelorette. What I don’t understand was ABC deciding to pick her in the first place especially knowing Tayshia was there and ready. As for whether I believe her and Dale communicated prior to the show filming, I’m inclined to believe Clare that they didn’t solely because she swore on her dead father that they didn’t. She did confess to fully Instagram stalking him which is fine if you’re about to go on a blind Tinder date, but a bit unfair when you’re about to become the Bachelorette.
Jessica: Does anyone ever really deserve to be The Bachelorette? ABC just chooses who they think will give them good ratings. And they chose her because Peter’s season was a trainwreck, and they thought the audience wanted someone older. Personally, I’m glad the show doesn’t have a bunch of 23 year olds, and this season has certainly been dramatic. I think Clare looked at Dale’s social media and already decided he was the guy for her before even meeting him in person.
Clare talking to all the men and revealing that she has feelings for Dale. Do you think that the men were right to question Dale’s intentions and Clares? Do you feel like she owed them an apology and how do you feel about the apology that she gave?
Erin: Clare is a bitch, but she doesn’t owe anyone anything. And I feel like the pressure that the guys put on her to explain and apologize was well… a bit unnecessary. We get it dude with the high hair – your Instagram sponsorships may be gone. You’ll survive.
Whatever Clare’s intentions are or were – they are hers. She is allowed to live her life and do her thing. All of these men need to stop and hope they get a spot on Bachelor in Paradise. Their sponsorship opportunities will come.
Lizzie: I don’t feel like she owed anyone anything, and honestly, I don’t know why everyone was acting like this was so horrible. They’re all like OMG you’ve only known him for 24 hours, how do you know this is real …but dude, you’ve also only know her for 2.5 seconds …why are you fighting so hard for a woman who you don’t really know and who does not CARE about you to stick around? Cut your losses and get another Bachelorette in there.
So, whatever, Clare might be making a mistake, but it’s hers to make, and these people had absolutely no reason to be up her ass about it.
Lyra: Clare’s apology was lackluster. She didn’t care that she hurt the other men’s feelings. It was all the Clare and Dale show and she did a disservice to herself and the rest of the cast by not giving them a chance. But we’ll never know now because she swanned off with her dream boat and everything’s hunky dory.
Grace: I do think she owed the men a bit of an explanation for her actions. She cancelled multiple dates and would only talk about Dale so I do think the guys deserved to get somewhat of an answer as to what’s going on. I do think guys like Kenny (who maybe spent two whole minutes with Clare) have no right to come at her. If anything, Jason deserves an apology from Clare as she made him confess his deepest and darkest secrets on their first date. All that and Jason didn’t even get a second date. Poor guy.
Jessica: I think some of these guys were sweet in hoping Clare doesn’t get hurt by Dale. I can definitely understand their concerns because how well does Clare really know Dale? But it’s Clare’s season and her life so she can pick whatever guy she wants. Plus, the show brought in another Bachelorette for the guys so they don’t feel like they wasted their time.
Let’s talk that proposal. Do you think that Dale and Clare will last?
Erin: No. Mama didn’t raise no fool. They are not Trista and Ryan.
Lizzie: I’ll give them this, they’ve lasted THIS long. Other couples haven’t even gotten to the time the show airs. But I’m not going to bet on them, no. There’s a chance, there always is, if they want to put in the work, and if once they get to know each other realize they are actually compatible. But solid foundation isn’t what the show gave them, and what they do with their clear attraction for each other from now on, it’s up to them. I wish them luck, but if I see the news that they’ve broken up in a few months I won’t be surprised …or heartbroken.
Lyra: I don’t know who Trista and Ryan are but I bet that as soon as these Clare and Dale take off the rose colored glasses, the truth will come out. They’re both fake, trying to become B-List celebrities, and failing at it. But at least they’re pretty together, right? The vain side of me that thinks about looks, is showing!
Grace: I give it six months. There have been couples on the series that I thought were meant to be that didn’t last, so I have little faith in Clare and Dale. Also, when Dale was like “I accepted it” that was a sign that he is just way in over his head. I kind of got the vibe that Dale is just going with the flow, but I guess we’ll see.
Jessica: I’ll give Dale credit for proposing, and they do seem happy. I hope they work out because everyone deserves happiness, but I’m not counting on it. I just don’t know how you can know you want to marry someone after going on 2 dates with them. But I guess stranger things have happened.
Blake. Do you feel like his reaction to Clare and Dale was warranted? Did you think he was overreacting or do you think he was in the right to assume the worst?
Erin: Blake has actual issues and he needs to calm down. He’s being too loud. Ya, I am full on quoting Taylor Swift over this attitude here.
Lizzie: Blake, son, what the actual fuck? She doesn’t want you, then let her go. Seriously, why would you want to be with a woman you have to fight to convince she doesn’t want someone else? Be like Elsa here and let it go.
As for his assumptions, I also think the whole Dale/Clare thing is insane, but like, I realize it isn’t my life, and as many opinions as I might hold on the matter, I don’t get to tell them what decisions to make. So, it’d be super nice if Blake processed that.
Lyra: Blake needed to catch a clue and understand that Clare doesn’t want him. Just because they had a tiny bit of a spark, doesn’t mean a full blown relationship is going to pop up. And knowing Clare, he probably dodged a bullet and so did she.
Grace: Yeah, Blake needed to calm down. For someone who was questioning how Clare could fall for Dale so quickly, it sure seems like he has some strong feelings for Clare already, only she didn’t reciprocate. He also should have bowed out of being one of Tayshia’s suitors because he clearly needs time to move on.
Jessica: I get that he was disappointed. No one likes being rejected. But why fight so hard for someone who clearly wants someone else? Clare had already decided what she wanted, and that wasn’t Blake. He needs to move on.
Tayshia. What are your thoughts on the new Bachelorette?
Erin: I don’t know anything about her so I have no opinion. But bring it on. She seems much more likeable than Clare.
Lizzie: I know very little about her from before, but I already like her better than Clare, because I didn’t really like Clare all that much. Besides, there’s bound to be more drama if we have a Bachelorette that isn’t just focused on ONE guy. Bring on the drama!
Lyra: I know nothing about her but hope that she does well with the leftovers she is taking on. It really takes a strong kind of woman to step into shoes like this. Sending her all the good vibes!
Grace: I am SO EXCITED for Tayshia. I saw her a little bit on Colton’s season and she was great. My only wish was that she was the Bachelorette from the beginning. I hope she has a fair shot with all these guys despite them being Clare’s “leftovers”.
Jessica: I saw a little of Tayshia on Bachelor in Paradise, and I like her so far. Plus, she’s gorgeous. I’m interested to see how the guys react to her and if any of them decide to leave. It will be nice to have a Bachelorette who hasn’t already made up her mind on which guy she wants!