I feel like we should start calling The Bachelorette a shit show, because it is. I know it’s gotta be producers persuading them to keep these shitty people around cause like some of these men are a real fucking embarrassment.
I’m for real waiting for Harvard to revoke Bennett’s diploma. Noah is like a 12 year old girl.
And those moans will be forever in my mind and I want money for therapy for that.
But lets break it down – Episode 7 of Tayshia’s season.
Now, this episode was all over the place. Who is your front runner? Who do you wish would go the fuck home already?
Erin: If you have an answer that isn’t IVAN, you are making bad choices in your life. Ivan was genuine and sweet and really wanted to relate to her. He didn’t seem fake. Not in the least bit. I feel bad for most of the dudes that were sent home – though, like BYE CHASEN. But like why is she not seeing Noah for the snake he is. And what do we need to keep Bennett around for? The man is as entertaining as watching paint dry.
Lizzie: Look, after this episode the only answer is IVAN. In fact, if this episode made anything clear is that Ivan would probably be the best partner long-term. Which, of course, means she ain’t gonna pick Ivan. But she should. I just want it stated.
As for the other question …why is Noah even around at this point? Or Bennett? It’s for the drama, right? There’s no other possible answer.
Jessica: I love Ben and Ivan. Those two seem genuine, and they both have a good connection with Tayshia. Bennett, Noah, and Ed all need to go home.
Grace: I definitely am rooting for Ivan and Ben after that episode. They’re both super sweet and seem like great guys. As for who I want to go home, I’m happy Chasen finally was sent packing. I think Ed or Noah should have gone home instead of Joe who I was loving. It’s never the good guys that get to stick around.
Jade: I really liked Ivan this episode. I have to give it to him. He seems so sweet and sincere, and every time he was on screen, I was able to eat my popcorn instead of throwing it at my television. Plus, my father-in-law is a huge Bachelorette fan (my mother-in-law is more of a passive participant in the process), and they’re both rooting for Ivan, too. He’s gotta be my number one choice if my entire household is on his side! If I had to pick a second, I would pick Ben, though I was confused by the whole issue that necessitated his apology. What else could he possibly have been doing, other than trying to talk to her? Macrame? You have one job, Ben!
Lets talk truth or dare. What did you think of it? Whose moans would you like to erase from your memory? What do you think games like this prove?
Erin: All of it was cringeworthy, but let’s be real, it was the most exciting part of the show. Without the cringeworthy and omg why is that happening moments, what we’re left with is boredom. Cause this shit is boring. Watching people try to make a connection on a television show is boring without a lot of drama somehow. These people made me want to retreat under the covers because I was embarrassed for them. I don’t like being embarrassed for them.
Lizzie: Games like these prove that without pretty places to jet off these contestants to, this show is boring AF. I want the pandemic to end for many, many reasons, but honestly, to be saved from these awful ideas is starting to climb up at the list at this point, because Dear God. And I mean that in the I don’t even remember what happened, I only watch for the pretty places and the drama, not the second-hand embarrassment.
Jessica: Can I erase all the moans? They were so cringeworthy. I was okay with some of the other dares, but I could have definitely done without that one. I think the show is completely running out of ideas so they are needing silly things to keep us entertained for the rest of the season.
Grace: I thought that date was super fun given that they’re definitely running out of date ideas at this point. I loved seeing Becca and, honestly, who doesn’t love a good game of truth or dare? I think more time should have maybe been spent on truth, but I’ll take the entertainment of having to watch Chris Harrison sign the guys’ butts.
Jade: I can see the value in the “truth” portion of the truth or dare game. If you’re going to pick out a guy to supposedly marry in the course of a few weeks, you should probably get into some deep dives of his psyche to know what you’re getting into. As for the dare bits…while I think there certainly could be dares that would tell you something significant about your potential future significant others, I’m not sure any of those would fit the bill. Those are just television viewer bait. I’d pay good money to erase some of those moans from my memory (though the reactions of the other guys did crack me up a time or two). And I don’t care who’s waiting on the other end, there’s no way in hell I would have drunk some of the stuff they threw back.
Bennett has come to be kind of a pompous prick who seems to be there for the publicity and the drama. Do you think he’s genuine? Do you think he’s there for the Instagram fame? Who should be his first brand partnership?
Erin: He wants a brand partnership with – well Harvard. And you know Harvard is like we don’t even know you. They are like cringing and retreating and talking about giving him his money back if he stops dropping the Harvard name and disgracing it. Boy is as fake as the pretentious attitude he has. HE NEEDS TO GO. Please no Instagram sponsorships.
Lizzie: If you don’t think he’s in there for the publicity, then I have a bridge to sell you, for cheap. But I actually want him to flunk at it. Or only get partnerships of like, cleaning products. Nothing glamorous. That would serve him right.
Jessica: Before this episode I didn’t mind Bennett, but now I’m ready for him to leave. He’ll be entertaining on Bachelor in Paradise for sure, but it’s time for him to go home. Tayshia’s not going to pick him anyway.
Grace: I love Bennett. Listen, at this point, everyone who joins the show knows that they’re going to get some publicity. It’s how the show works at this point. I never got the feeling that Bennett is there for the wrong reasons. If he gets a few thousands Instagram followers in return for making this season even more entertaining, then I’m all here for it.
Jade: Bennett is the show’s resident himbo, and I don’t care what school he went to; you will never convince me otherwise. Of course he’s there for the publicity, but I suspect all of them are to a degree. I mean, it’s not exactly the traditional way of finding one’s soulmate. It may not be the sole or even primary reason all of them are there. But they aren’t stripping down to their skivvies in dodgeball or tossing back gross foods because they’re adverse to finding their 15 minutes of fame. Let’s be real. As for who should partner with Bennett, I don’t know how should, but I’d bet good money Harvard’s wishing he’d stop dropping the H-bomb so often after his performance in the math and spelling test. So, what are we thinking: legacy student, or was he admitted to Harvard as a member of the “crew team?”
Ivan’s 1:1 date with Tayshia opened up a lot of conversation. How did you feel about that conversation? What did you think about their date?
Erin: Honestly, I feel like it was time that The Bachelorette got real and I for real teared up and was thankful that people finally got real. Though somethings that are said on this show make me cringe, I feel like Ivan and Tayshia got to the point where I felt like they could build something real and for that I am thankful.
Lizzie: The Bachelorette has never had a conversation like this one, because they’ve never had the kind of contestants who would have a conversation like this one. And despite the fact that Tayshia’s whole “I’ve never met a half Black/half Filipino person before” was just a tad ignorant – isn’t she from California? Is she just not paying attention? – at least there was a deep conversation to be had between two people, and no one who didn’t belong in this type of conversation interrupted to whitesplain anything!
So, this basically makes Ivan my favorite, because I feel like he and Tayshia could actually build the foundation of something real, and they could relate to each other, and help each other navigate this world and hey, even grow together. As I said before, I’m about 98% sure that means she isn’t going to pick him, because smart choices aren’t what this show is about.
Jessica: This conversation was very different from anything I’ve heard from the Bachelor franchise in a long time. It made me appreciate Ivan more, and it seems like these two have a deep connection. Ivan seems real. Some (most) of the contestants on the show have seemed perfect so I like that he’s not, and he’s okay with sharing some of his struggles.
Grace: This was a much needed conversation. The Bachelorette has a diversity problem and they think making Tayshia as the Bachelorette fixes that. Unfortunately, it’s more of a bandaid over the problem. But Ivan and Tayshia having this conversation proved that maybe they’re actually trying to fix what many have called them out for. Giving airtime to such a genuine and deep conversation about very important matters was something that was long overdue.
Jade: I’ve never seen The Bachelorette before, so I couldn’t speak to whether it’s typical for the show or not. However, it isn’t a typical conversation for television in general, which made it a really remarkable moment to watch and is part of what cemented Ivan as my personal front-runner. It felt a bit more real and genuine of a connection than anything discerned from fake proposing after eating a hot pepper. In a show where much is probably contrived, there was underlying honesty in that conversation that made it far more memorable than any other part of the Truth or Dare game.
Noah. Tell me all your thoughts about him and what he did. Do you think he was in the right? What do you think of Tayshia’s response?
Erin: I HATE HIM. That’s all you need to know.
Lizzie: For someone I had no feelings about very recently, do I dislike Noah now. Who does he think he is? Boohoo, he’s upset he’s not on the date. Boohoo, he tells Tayshia everyone hates him, nobody loves him …like dude, seriously? Talk about going low, low, low. Like, when even Chasen has turned on you, Noah, you know you done fucked up.
But I think Tayshia handled it as well as she could, under the circumstances. She still has to make her own decisions, and she isn’t seeing what we’re seeing.
Jessica: Noah needs to leave… like yesterday. He caused so much drama, and the only thing it did was upset everyone. Now Tayshia doesn’t know what to think, and she thinks some of the guys don’t respect or trust her. I’m sorry that you’re not the center of Tayshia’s world and she’s spending time with other guys, but that’s the entire point of The Bachelorette. Because he causes so much drama he’ll probably stay for another 2 episodes at least.
Grace: I have one word that describes Noah and it’s bullshit. He is only there to cause drama and it’s so annoying. He literally lied to Tayshia just so that he could be the center of attention, and he succeeded. He needs to go. I don’t fault Tayshia for handling the situation the way she did, but maybe get a second opinion before casting judgement on everyone for something one guy said.
Jade: I dislike him. Intensely. And I get it on some level, but I also want to shake Tayshia a little because…really? You don’t even have a moment where you question the sincerity of the guy throwing everyone else under the bus? Particularly since he was then like, “I’m not going to tell you who said it, and I think you should confront everyone yourself while I hang back and act innocent.” You don’t take even a single second to ask yourself, “Why is he telling me this? What does he have to gain by telling me this? Does he have any impetus to lie? Oh, wait, he absolutely does because dragging down his other competitors might raise his stock by comparison!” Girl. GIRL.
Tell us who fits the bill –
Most likely to never date again –
Lizzie: She gonna break my boy Ivan in a bad way, isn’t she?
Jade: I’m torn between Ben and Ivan, but let’s be honest. Neither of them is going to be burned as badly as Jason was burned by Clare.
Most likely to never become Instagram famous –
Lizzie: I really want the answer to be Bennett, so I’m putting it out in the universe.
Jessica: I really hope Noah. The guy creeps me out, and I really don’t want to see him on Instagram.
Jade: There are, like, four guys I couldn’t name for you right now if my life depended upon it, so I’m going to go for one of them.
Most likely to be outed as a pathological liar –
Erin: NOAH. He already is one.
Lizzie: Noah IS ALREADY ONE, SO THERE, EASY.
Jessica: Noah. I didn’t even have to think about this one.
Grace: Noah, 100%.
Jade: NOAH. He already showed his stripes by his “People are saying bad things about you but I won’t tell you who or what or when or why and you should totally confront them yourself and don’t tell them I told you.” You know who pulls that kind of crap? Pathological liars and crappy, cowardly people. That’s who.
Most likely to never be heard from again –
Lizzie: Please say Eazy.
Jade: I was going to say Bennett, but it occurred to me that, wherever he needs to go after this, Ed’s probably going to get lost on his way there. Never to be heard from again.
The news came out that Dale may have cheated on Clare? Do you believe it? Are you shocked?
Erin: Shocked. So shocked. And if you don’t get that is sarcasm, nice to meet you Sheldon Cooper.
Lizzie: This is my surprised face. It’s the same as my I saw it coming face.
Jessica: I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it’s true.
Grace: Oh, please. Dale did not cheat on Clare. I don’t even like them as a couple but I still find this gossip highly suspicious.
Jade: You mean an engagement founded on, like, twelve days of barely knowing each other may have hit rocky water already? I’m shocked. Shocked, I say!