Frances is hard to figure out. Sometimes I think that she’s being taken advantage of and sometimes we think that she’s playing a victim. She’s hard to figure out, but we want to. We want her to find her way and start to make wise choices.
And well we think that’s the last thing that she’s doing.
We left off with the laptop ringing and we picked right back up with her answering it. She’s brave to answer a facetime that late at night. Cause like no, we would press decline.
Nick and Frances are always apologizing to each other, but we think it’s because they are always overthinking everything. He apologizes for being short (which for him is like basically apologizing for existing) and she apologizes for calling late. Nick at least can take responsibility and acknowledge that he is being paranoid.
He takes a moment to ask about Bobbi, but it’s better now. Nick opens his mouth and says shit that he shouldn’t – like he saw someone on the beach that looked like her. Frances says people are always telling her about someone they saw and it’s always a plain person and then she has to pretend not to mind. No surprise that she takes it that way.
But Nick says she was attractive and she’s doubting herself. Frances needs to find her way to confidence, but she is always fishing for validation. Nick reiterates that she looked like Frances but was probably a bit less hostile.
Frances asks him to visit when he gets back and he says that he’d like that.
Here’s my thing – Nick has basically told Frances that he’s never going to leave his wife, and I feel like she’s living under the idea that he will. And someone is going to need to tell her that’s not the way that it will be.
Bobbie and Frances living together doesn’t feel like the smartest choice. Those two have too many feelings and too much history. And well, lets be honest that Bobbi isn’t the most trusting person.
For their first night they sit and laugh and drink. Bobbi tries to make conversation (or what I call fishing for information) and asks what it’s like to have sex with a man because after all the penis is an absurd device. Where I didn’t think that Frances would have a good response, she does. She remarks that it’s part of their charm.
What it does is open up to the conversation to if Nick can come over. Bobbi agrees, but there is a tone in her voice that says she’s uncomfortable with it. Sometimes you just need to take the hits for your friends.
NICK COMES OVER
The transitions between time in this show are a little confusing. Sometimes I wonder why something is there.
We’ve jumped a bit, but Nick is back and he’s at the door. Frances answers the door and she tells him that he looks fucking good. There is no lie there. Also no lie that it’s completely awkward with him walking in.
These two can’t get enough of each other. They are so aggressive, it’s like they haven’t had sex in months. It’s just been a few weeks, calm down.
Frances and Nick are so wrapped up in each other when they are around each other that they don’t take other people into account. The two are so wrapped up in their feelings about each other that they are disregarding everyone else. But the two of them aren’t even addressing the issues, nor are they wanting to correct them.
But they get jealous over everything.
It always seems as though Melissa shows up at the weirdest times. We feel like she has a radar to show up when it’s going to be as awkward as possible. And then, we also feel like we don’t understand at all why she’s so fascinated with Bobbi and Frances.
Is she trying to stay young?
Frances and Melissa are at a bookstore, when Frances notices Melissa. She tries to stay back, to avoid Melissa, but Melissa sees her. We can’t help but cringe when we see Melissa hug Frances and ask her to coffee.
The whole thing is weird.
But what’s weirder and makes me not thrilled with Bobbi is that she agrees to going to coffee with Melissa. She knows what is happening and she knows that Frances can’t handle pressure.
Part of us believes that Melissa knows what is happening and that she is just trying to break Frances down. But also we are fully aware that she could be oblivious. But she always drops hints like she knows something, especially when she talks about how Nick was better when they were there. How the holiday was good for him.
If Frances was us, she woulda spilled her guts right there. But she didn’t. She just said she had to leave and go to class when Melissa said that Nick was on his way.
Later that night, Bobbi said that it didn’t feel good the whole situation. Melissa is still her friend. Yes, Bobbi, she is. But Melissa isn’t your best friend, and though you can talk to your friends about anything, there is such thing as loyalty.
Frances knows that it isn’t a good feeling, but she’s not sure of what to do. We could tell her what to do.
But we’re pretty sure she wouldn’t listen.
Frances seems to keep tempting fate and tempting herself. The next time that Nick is over, she seems to forget what she’s feeling and gets wrapped up in him. When he leaves the room to go to the restroom she tries on his coat. It is a great coat.
Sure, it’s a simple thing, and it opens up a conversation between the two of them. Sometimes we think that the reason that these two are so attracted to each other is because they are so much alike. But we’re also like why does every conversation between them have to be so serious? It has to get exhausting.
It’s all about them caring what people think of them. He cares what people think of him. He knows he can be hard to read. It is not intentional. People find him cold and not fun. She says people find her the same. Bobbi thinks she withholds emotionally, she has a real problem with it. He hugs her and she says she really wants his coat.
Even their next interaction is so serious. They are in a car and he says he’s loved these past few weeks with her. She’s expecting a but, which we all would. She asks if this makes him feel bad when he’s with Melissa. Why they keep bringing up serious things all the time, we are not sure, but hey.
He asks what If he told Melissa, as doesn’t like lying to her. He thinks it’s better if she knows. We can commend that he doesn’t want to lie to his wife, but that is all that he’s been doing. He admits to Frances that he doesn’t want to leave Melissa.
Frances, run. But Frances agrees with him and says if he wants to, he should do it.
We feel like Nick and Frances are just trying to clear their own conscious. They just seem to make no sense. How this will end, we’re not sure. But we’re pretty sure that it’s just going to bring pain.
- Nick telling Frances that his Dad wouldn’t approve of her – well that’s kind of mean, even if true.
- Frances seems to only have fun when she’s drunk.
- Nick asking about how Bobbi feels about their relationship – just wow. He’s jealous.
- Not sure what it matters to Nick who broke up with who – Bobbi or her.
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READ ALL OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH FRIENDS REVIEWS –
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×01 Review: “Episode 1”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×02 Review: “Episode 2”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×03 Review: “Episode 3”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×04 Review: “Episode 4”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×05 Review: “Episode 5”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×06 Review: “Episode 6”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×07 Review: “Episode 7”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×08 Review: “Episode 8”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×09 Review: “Episode 9”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×10 Review: “Episode 10”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×11 Review: “Episode 11”
- ‘Conversations With Friends’ 1×12 Review: “Episode 12”