Queerly Not Straight: We Need to Talk About #Destiel

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  1. Hikari says:

    Thank you for blaming the network and not the writers/showrunner.
    People will throw in excuses about how “cw is the queerest network” but those are all newer shows.
    SPN is a 15 year old dinosaur that started on the WB, and the people in charge haven’t wanted to rock the boat.
    Obviously Dabb and Bobo (Berens) are making huge waves, if fandom response is anything to go by.
    Friends and I have been saying for years, if Destiel is going to go textually canon, it would be the last season, and here we are.
    We’re getting all the clues thrown at us, it’s happening. And I love it.

  2. Jenn Hale says:

    Do I believe in Destiel? Absolutely. Do I think it will go canon before the end of season 15? Absolutely not. But ahhhhh all the wonderful fafic ❤❤❤❤

    1. Lyra Hale says:

      Exactly. This. The fantastic fanfics have been coming my way in droves. Always welcome to more!

  3. Caroline Pires Ayala says:

    I’m a woman, straight, and I think their love is the most beautiful thing, although Dean often doesn’t deserve his wonderful and beautiful Angel. The chemistry of the actors made it all happen, I think. Anyway, the deep connection between them is totally incredible if you think about everything that Castiel represents to Dean, the salvation of his soul, the reconstitution of his body, I imagine that Dean should feel immense fascination just to be in the company of Castiel. Dean is needy and afraid of abandonment, Castiel represents security and love, so he has no desire to live without his Angel. Yes, I would love for the writers and the broadcaster to assume that they are a couple, but I am also afraid that this will label them. I think their relationship should be seen as very affectionate and affective, never as a very sexual appeal. Although Castiel had an erection watching a porn movie after Jimmy Novak was no longer in the body. And Dean clearly tries to disguise an erection when he sees Castiel recovered from purgatory. In other words, neither is indifferent to the stimulus, much less indifferent to each other. According to popular belief, guardian angels do not like humans under their guard to have stupid attitudes that put them at risk unnecessarily. So I think Castiel doesn’t like Dean’s attitude about using women in casual sex without any ties. I think it is likely that he will be able to give Dean much more pleasure and keep him from vulgarity. There has even been an episode in which Dean talks about his relationship with women and wants something different when he confesses to a priest.

  4. A says:

    The problem I see is that Dean has tended more towards homophobia from the very beginning of the show. Even though I wish Destiel could be a thing, I personally can’t ever see Dean admitting his feelings for Cas. And Cas has historically tended towards heterosexual relationships himself.

    Here’s something to think about (and I’m just playing devil’s advocate here): could our fascination with Destiel show that our society is still unable to accept a close emotional non-familial relationship without any sexual aspect? Partly stemming from the debate of whether men and women can ever be “just friends” with each other because the average man is only able to be completely emotionally available to someone who’s also a sexual partner. Thoughts?

  5. LB says:

    You talk about bias but you’re showing it right here by saying that anyone who doesn’t see Dean and Castiel as a romantic pairing are just blind and too heteronormative. There are tons of people who are LGBTQ+ themselves who also don’t feel there is a romantic/sexual component to their relationship. The fact that you don’t believe that straight men can feel this type of connection emotionally with each other without wanting to become a romantic couple speaks to your own bias and ignorance of male friendships. I mean we’ve seen the emotional lengths that Sam and Dean have gone to for each other and the deep love that exists there and yet, outside of their own contingent of shippers, people don’t have a hard time understanding their relationship is familial. Cas and Dean’s relationship is a classic example of platonic brothers in arms. People who have forged emotional bonds through the threat and reality of war and death. That’s bound to make anyone close and it exists in reality too. But your ignorant assumption and accusation that men only behave that way towards each other if they feel romantically or sexually is part of the reason that some men tend to repress showing their love for other men in their lives even when it’s just familial or platonic.

    1. Lissete Lanuza Sáenz says:

      I’m a bit confused as to what you’re replying about. Did you happen to read the article? Because you’re responding in a in insulting way to a lot of things the author did not say.

  6. M says:

    The reality is that Dean Winchester is a canonically heterosexual character. So, he wouldn’t have romantic or sexual attraction to Castiel, an angel wearing the corpse of a 45-year-old man. So, not rose-tinted glasses or anything, just the writers and showrunners sticking to the canon of Dean’s character.

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